REPENTANCE & RECOVERY Lance Appleton the author of “One God Apostolic” recounts his deliverance from drug and alcohol addiction, and shows how God’s power has changed his life. Visit his website www.freelancemusic.net
It’s so much deeper than that! Legalism is a disease, and it has infected the UPC to the point that salvation has become merly a legal point, and not a position of grace! Look, I know you think you believe what you believe, I can’t change that, but the perspective you have is one of being too close. if you sat down with someone like myself who can absolutely tear down the sacred cows of false doctrine that have become immovable, you would be left with more questions than answers.
well its like Paul said… if someone does not understand that its ok to eat meat… i wont push it on them… i just dont see any church thats closer to what i believe…
Why would anyone stay and support wrong things? The fact is, that it is a dying organization. The size of the youth camps are a third of the size in our state that it used to be! The number of churches has declined, as has the amount of people that go to them; thats a recipe for extinction. I can name probaly 500 people in my city who have left in the last 20 years! Almost every friend I had from youth camps, STATEWIDE, have left. How can two walk together except they agree?
hehe no problem…. well there are definitely a lot of things i would change… but there have been a lot of changes over the years… not all their churches are exactly the same anymore… my local church is the closest thing i have found to what i believe…
Well, then forgive me for overreacting to your line of questioning, “when you make a public statement like that about an organization it is natural that people will want to know what you mean… especially when they are part of that group.” did not sound like simple wondering, especially with the responses I regularly get from ANY legitimate fact that I have brought up about the UPC! So I stand corrected, you must be one of the few who KNOW it’s horrible faliures who still belong to it.
you assumed a lot by my simple question…. if you knew me you knew how hilarious your whole attitude toward me is… i never said i loved… or tried to defend the org. I simply asked what happened…
No, it was not based on TV, that was just a simple example of the hypocrites that i have seen in the man-made organization you seem to have fallen in love with! You don’t believe me? Go ask Rex Johnson, one of the premier preachers from your beloved organization what he thinks about the most holy UPC! Once again, the UPC kills it’s best! I wish you could pin it on just my personal experience, but the evidence is in, and it ain’t lookin good for the UPC! I guess you’ll go down with the ship!
defending? i was NOT defending them at all. In fact I dont even know what they were supposed to have done! thats what I was asking… from your post i guess maybe they kicked him out for tv or something??? if they did then YES, thats messed up.
Well buddy, glad to know you’re drinking the kool-aid! That’s the problem with your cult, THEY NEVER ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR WRONGS AND THEY NEVER REPENT! I made NO public statement except the vague TRUTH! Lance got SCREWED in 1986, I was there, so take your pathetic attempt at defending the indefensible UPC! You know the one that kicks people out for things they LATER adopt, like TV! If you believe that the ORGANIZATION does not have to be accountable, you ARE the problem!
yes I will. when you make a public statement like that about an organization it is natural that people will want to know what you mean… especially when they are part of that group.
If you where Lance, which was who I was addressing in that post, you would know what I meant. I had a personal relationship with Lance 25 years ago, played music with him many times. It would do no good to give you the gory details of how this good, decent and gentle man was treated. So, you’ll just have to remain curious.
Hey Lance this is a friend of yours that played with you many times in the 80′s, I was with you in Ohio that night the UPC slapped you in the face, please contact me, you know who I am
This is great! I would love to see Lance re-record & release some of those classic tunes from back in the day. There’s nothing like those old songs. It would be neat to see/hear an album with the same bluesy feel as “Run On” or “Harp Warming”. I also loved the “So Happy” album. Those were the days….
February 26th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Hello Bro Appleton,
I am so happy to hear your singing again..Me & my husband love you..Tom & Jan.
February 26th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
It’s so much deeper than that! Legalism is a disease, and it has infected the UPC to the point that salvation has become merly a legal point, and not a position of grace! Look, I know you think you believe what you believe, I can’t change that, but the perspective you have is one of being too close. if you sat down with someone like myself who can absolutely tear down the sacred cows of false doctrine that have become immovable, you would be left with more questions than answers.
February 26th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
well its like Paul said… if someone does not understand that its ok to eat meat… i wont push it on them… i just dont see any church thats closer to what i believe…
February 26th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Why would anyone stay and support wrong things? The fact is, that it is a dying organization. The size of the youth camps are a third of the size in our state that it used to be! The number of churches has declined, as has the amount of people that go to them; thats a recipe for extinction. I can name probaly 500 people in my city who have left in the last 20 years! Almost every friend I had from youth camps, STATEWIDE, have left. How can two walk together except they agree?
February 26th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
hehe no problem…. well there are definitely a lot of things i would change… but there have been a lot of changes over the years… not all their churches are exactly the same anymore… my local church is the closest thing i have found to what i believe…
February 26th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Well, then forgive me for overreacting to your line of questioning, “when you make a public statement like that about an organization it is natural that people will want to know what you mean… especially when they are part of that group.” did not sound like simple wondering, especially with the responses I regularly get from ANY legitimate fact that I have brought up about the UPC! So I stand corrected, you must be one of the few who KNOW it’s horrible faliures who still belong to it.
February 26th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
you assumed a lot by my simple question…. if you knew me you knew how hilarious your whole attitude toward me is… i never said i loved… or tried to defend the org. I simply asked what happened…
February 26th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
No, it was not based on TV, that was just a simple example of the hypocrites that i have seen in the man-made organization you seem to have fallen in love with! You don’t believe me? Go ask Rex Johnson, one of the premier preachers from your beloved organization what he thinks about the most holy UPC! Once again, the UPC kills it’s best! I wish you could pin it on just my personal experience, but the evidence is in, and it ain’t lookin good for the UPC! I guess you’ll go down with the ship!
February 26th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
defending? i was NOT defending them at all. In fact I dont even know what they were supposed to have done! thats what I was asking… from your post i guess maybe they kicked him out for tv or something??? if they did then YES, thats messed up.
February 26th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Well buddy, glad to know you’re drinking the kool-aid! That’s the problem with your cult, THEY NEVER ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR WRONGS AND THEY NEVER REPENT! I made NO public statement except the vague TRUTH! Lance got SCREWED in 1986, I was there, so take your pathetic attempt at defending the indefensible UPC! You know the one that kicks people out for things they LATER adopt, like TV! If you believe that the ORGANIZATION does not have to be accountable, you ARE the problem!
February 26th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
yes I will. when you make a public statement like that about an organization it is natural that people will want to know what you mean… especially when they are part of that group.
February 27th, 2010 at 12:41 am
If you where Lance, which was who I was addressing in that post, you would know what I meant. I had a personal relationship with Lance 25 years ago, played music with him many times. It would do no good to give you the gory details of how this good, decent and gentle man was treated. So, you’ll just have to remain curious.
February 27th, 2010 at 1:33 am
When I was a kid my dad had all your records! we saw you several times in concert. i used to put on your records and play the drums to them.
February 27th, 2010 at 2:21 am
your post just makes me curious
what did they do to him?
February 27th, 2010 at 3:13 am
Does anyone have any idea where/how Lance is now?
February 27th, 2010 at 3:42 am
Hey Lance this is a friend of yours that played with you many times in the 80′s, I was with you in Ohio that night the UPC slapped you in the face, please contact me, you know who I am
February 27th, 2010 at 4:18 am
I listened to Lance when I was a new Christian in the late 70s. I’ve been looking for his music forever!
February 27th, 2010 at 4:36 am
This is great! I would love to see Lance re-record & release some of those classic tunes from back in the day. There’s nothing like those old songs. It would be neat to see/hear an album with the same bluesy feel as “Run On” or “Harp Warming”. I also loved the “So Happy” album. Those were the days….
February 27th, 2010 at 5:01 am
this man has been a blessing to me you should watch the whole thing
catch you later in church brother lance. pete